Talk:New Journalism

This is the talk page for discussing improvements to the New Journalism article.
This is not a forum for general discussion of the article's subject.

Put new text under old text. Click here to start a new topic.
New to Wikipedia? Welcome! Learn to edit; get help.

Article policies

Find sources: Google (books · news · scholar · free images · WP refs) · FENS · JSTOR · TWL

Archives: 1: 12 months

Journalism

	Journalism portal This article is within the scope of WikiProject Journalism, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of journalism on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.JournalismWikipedia:WikiProject JournalismTemplate:WikiProject JournalismJournalism
???	This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

Media

This article is within the scope of WikiProject Media, a collaborative effort to improve the coverage of Media on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page, where you can join the discussion and see a list of open tasks.MediaWikipedia:WikiProject MediaTemplate:WikiProject MediaMedia

???

This article has not yet received a rating on the project's importance scale.

WikiProject Media To-do List:

Here are some tasks awaiting attention:

Cleanup : Media influence, Video game culture, Sound bite
NPOV : Content (media and publishing)
Verify : Multimedia, Alternative media, Alternative newspaper
Other :
- Answer requests for comments

Steinbeck is a candidate

Steinbeck's series that led to The Grapes of Wrath in the 1930s certainly qualifies. From the encyclopedia:

The Grapes of Wrath developed from The Harvest Gypsies, a series of seven articles that ran in the San Francisco News, from October 5 to 12, 1936. The newspaper commissioned that work on migrant workers from the Midwest in California's agriculture industry. (It was later compiled and published separately.) Psycherotica (talk) 02:48, 2 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hunter S. Thompson

The article's only-in-passing mention of HST, and then, with Nocera's ridiculous citing of him as the killer of the genre, is revisionist history at its worst.

Ridiculous because Nocera, like anyone serious about journalism, knows that the genre existed long before and has continued to exist long since its purported birth and death, respectively. Wolfe's heralded "new" genre was really little more than the public awakening, thanks to mass media, to the talents of a new generation of talented writers all at approximately the same time - specifically, the moment when a new generation was taking the reins from the old.

Creative, groundbreaking chroniclers of life have done down through history what this group did, but if we're going to label this group as "the New Journalists" of the 20th Century, omitting Thompson is an exercise in revisionist history. Though his widest-read works were purposely (and purposefully) cartoonish and silly, readers of "Hell's Angels (1967)," "The Kentucky Derby is Decadent and Depraved (1970)," and especially "Fear and Loathing on the Campaign Trail '72," know that his ability to contextualize current events within the broader American experience was without peer.

The latter, in particular, dissects - through the story of Democrats' blowing what should have been a sure thing, the election of George McGovern - the American left's unrivaled cluelessness around effective political messaging, and its regular, reliable convening of its "big tent" circular shooting squad, the source of the mixed messaging the party creates. He presciently concludes: "There is really no hope of accomplishing anything genuinely new or different in American politics until the Democratic Party is done away with."

In short, Thompson clearly saw that the left's ineptitude would fuel the rise of the right - and where that would lead - at a time when other "New Journalists" were more concerned with naval-gazing themselves into their works. 71.210.71.94 (talk) 11:16, 27 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]